Retired General Jim Mattis has launched a scathing criticism of his old boss, labelling Donald Trump a divisive President and a threat to the Constitution.
Geraldine and Eliza wonder if General Mattis' letter will act as a call to arms amongst Republicans who have been privately wary of the President's behaviour, but until now unwilling to criticise him publicly.
Also this week, Eliza is enthralled in the German TV series "Das Boot".
Geraldine wonders how long it takes for a war-torn country to properly confront its past.
And the women talk shopping in the age of COVID-19.
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